new midnight mayhem rules

looks like they are trying to put us back on the street with all the new rules. why build a street car that meet's all d o t rules and can't take it to lvms!  can't move the battrey loaction ? why

I really don't understand a lot of the new rules imposed.  I DO understand they are trying to clean up the scene a little bit and make it safer for all but it's really beyond the scope of "racing".

People like me and my friends go to Midnight Mayhem because we love cars.  We love working on cars and enjoy the results.  I despise street racing and everything that it brings to the "import scene".  So MMH is my only outlet on a budget. 

People who like to race, understand it and go to MMH DON'T HAVE STOCK CARS!!  The new rules imposed have basically handcuffed every car lover I know.  No force induction, no battery relocation and on and on.  It's as if LVMS considers every shade tree mechanic inept at working on cars.  Granted there's a lot of people who shouldn't but use common sense here.  Have your SFI tech say yay or nay but putting an end to so many everyday modifications is crazy.

Who wants to pay to watch a bunch camry's, mustangs, corvettes, 20second civic or whatever mom pulls out of the garage run down the track at a snoozing rate?  Don't get me wrong, i'm not baggin on mustangs or vettes but I wanna see something other than stock.  I wanna see that SC Mustang scream, I wanna see that boosted vette/civic/dodge ram run hard.  Not dad's Pontiac Grand Am GT drop another 16 second run.

You have literally pushed all modified cars back to the streets.  That's the last place they should be.  It was my understanding that MMH was designed to provide a safe outlet for kids and adults alike to enjoy their handy work or money they threw at a piece of steel. 

Yes I know your saying to go to Test N Tune if your cars modified but I can't leave work at noon to get to the track.  I can't afford to pay the money they ask for and I'm sure there's a lot in my same situation.  I want to race my friend and colleagues not a 900hp Nova on slicks or a junior rail car.

Please reconsider, use common sense with your techs.  They know what to look for, let them decide.

I like the no temp registration, no slicks is fine but I don't see the outcry on that.  If fluid is the problem then have your techs check the basics and let us run.  Don't let the kids resort to the streets, the police have enough garbage to worry about.  You and I both don't want 400+ cars there, charge a bit more and put a limit on car count but for god sakes these rules are crazy.

RACING=MODIFYING

It's Las Vegas Motor Speedway, not Las Vegas Motor Sloway/stockway/streetway

Give us the outlet that MMH was made for, don't put them back on the streets.


Edited by VegasHB - 08 Jan 2009 at 6:10pm

Wow there won't be anyone there, was that your goal?

"Fuel system and battery: All batteries, fuel tanks, fuel lines, fuel pumps, or filler necks must retain stock OEM location as produced by the OEM manufacturer."

So if my 13 second 68 Chevelle has an electric fuel pump at the tank for example and not in the OEM location, I will not be able to race???? I think a representative of LVMS needs to address the current issue with the rule changes; expand and clarify the information recently released about MM!!!

Anyone that was at the last MM of 2008 knows it was probably the straw that broke the camels back. There were a couple catastrophic failures that literally brought everything to a halt for hours (with an "S", as in plural). 420+ racers turned out, huge by any tracks standards, especially with temperatures in 40's. There was the average length line when I arrived around 9pm, early compared to my usual 10-10:30pm. It was a little slow getting up to sign in, not a deal breaker, especially when you find out that there are 400 cars ahead of you. Then I got to spend the next hour and a half parked by the Blue Man Group sign, at least I had plenty of time to fill out my tech card. It was obvious from the proximity of the steam emitted by the clean up equipment that somebody had greased the track from end to end. Privy to overhear conversations from a nearby officials radio, I was aware that there were complications, partially due to the weather, in particular, requiring excessive quantities of propane, as well as, something with the VHT nozzles.

Edited by Rowdy - 15 Jan 2009 at 11:59pm

Not directed towards imports at all and I'll go as far as to say that your wrinkle walled turbo ricer is far more welcome to line up next to me than 99% of anything that would be representative of the new OEM rules. In fact, the worst safety issue that I can recall seeing was an otherwise stock, Fox body Mustang running two compact spare tires (donuts) on the front. I appreciate anything fast, which could occasionally even include hacks. Although I'm mainly interested in "what it'll do today", I try my best to manipulate my car along side whatever is nearby that looks like it would be competitve  I'll admit, I tend to be American Muscle bias, if for no other reason than the photo factor.

Well, this thread has been up for a couple of weeks and no one from the track has addressed our concerns. What's up with that? Are they waiting to see Fridays turnout? 

Can't rules be bent ?